From: | Andreas Mixich |
Date: | 24 May 2000 at 13:00:42 |
Subject: | Re: The recent poll (majordomo) |
Hello Thomas
On 17-Mai-00, you wrote:
TH> Recent!? That was probably about 8 months ago.
Oops :) I would suggest closing it then ;-)
TH> Most of that's irrelevent... the fact that the list has been up
TH> flawlessly for it's entire lifetime and that everyone knows where it is
TH> is not.
Yep, this is a good argument.
TH>> As the database seems to be set up for overall public access, anyone
TH>> could add entries for a FAQ. A maintainer only would have to cut&paste
TH>> this info and organize it a bit.
TH>
TH> Do we need a faq? The list is hardly brimming over with questions.
Well, don't look that strict at it. Not a list FAQ, but an ARexx-FAQ.
Most mails here in the list *are* questions. However, it is an option. It'�
there.
TH>> The diary might be nice to announce some list-member meetings on IRC
TH>> :-)
TH>
TH> We have any?
No, but it sure would be nice to have those.
TH>> It would help in creation of the ARexx Web Document, if the link-list
TH>> would be used more frequently to collect ARexx related links.
TH>
TH> A links list for a handful of url's? Feh.
Two are already added. More could come. A handful ? A handful might be what
you know. There could be even more.
TH>> <QUOTE>
TH>> [...]
TH>> only. You agree not to modify, copy, reproduce, republish,
TH>> upload, post, transmit, sell or distribute in any way
TH>> Content available through the Service, including code and
TH>> software.
TH>> </QUOTE>
TH>
TH> Can they do that? It may be on their server but they do NOT own the data
TH> anyone uploads there and hence have no rights over it once it has been
TH> downloaded.
Read again:
> You agree not to modify, copy, reproduce, republish,
> upload, post, transmit, sell or distribute in any way
"You *agree* ...."
By signing this service you agreed...
I am not quite sure, how valid such statements are. But I fear, they are.
I doubt, that we will ever get in touch with this clause, but it itches my
back.
TH> I would say that having the list moved is kind of a non issue right
TH> now... my only thing with Owlnet now is some webspace which I don't have
TH> the login for.
Huh ?
TH> You want to make some big resource site, and I admit this was what I was
TH> originally going to do (I even prepared an announcement of it's
TH> development; the ARexx Resource Project), but when I looked hard, I
TH> couldn't see a demand or a need for it anywhere...
TH>> Because, I think this is _our_ list, not /theirs/
TH>
TH> It's their list-serv, their servers, hence they have final say of legal
TH> issues such as this... I don't think many are likely to be interested in
TH> the file area anyway... people?
Read again: It is not the file-area only. It is the list itself, and all
published code in it ! They own the rights on this mail as well. They say.
I don't want them to own these rights.
And if you think its their list....and they own all intellectual property,
because they own the piece of hardware.....
Again, I think its propably not an issue for practice. Most likely they are
not interested in us at all. It's just a matter of fact: I just dislike such
policies and thought that might be an additional reason and maybe
interesting for others.
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